By Reedâs count, he takes six weeks of vacation a year, and from my limited experience, I would add âat least.â
Reedâs own modeling is fundamental to the success of the unlimited vacation policy throughout Netflix. If the CEO doesnât model this, the method canât work. Even then, Reedâs substantial vacation-taking has trickled down as intended in some areas of Netflix and not so well in others. When those leaders under Reed donât follow his example, their employees often sound a bit like the zombies from Reedâs nightmares.
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Reed is another Netflix leader who frequently displays these two behaviors. And in return he receives more negative feedback than any other leader in the company. The proof is his 360-degree written assessment, which is open for everyone to contribute to, and where he consistently gets more feedback than any other employee does. Reed solicits feedback continually and religiously responds with belonging cues, sometimes even speaking publicly about how pleased heâs been to receive a piece of criticism. Here is a paragraph from a memo he shared with all Netflix employees in spring 2019:
360 is always a very stimulating time of year. I find the best comments for my growth are unfortunately the most painful. So, in the spirit of 360, thank you for bravely and honestly pointing out to me: âIn meetings you can skip over topics or rush through them when you feel impatient or determine a particular topic on the agenda is no longer worth the time... On a similar note, watch out for letting your point-of-view overwhelm. You can short-change the debate by signaling alignment when it doesnât exist.â So true, so sad, and so frustrating that I still do this. I will keep working on it. Hopefully, all of you got and gave very direct constructive feedback as well.
LEADERS MUST MODEL BIG VACATION-TAKING⌠If the CEO is taking only two weeksâ vacation, of course his employees feel the unlimited plan doesnât give them much freedom. Theyâre bound to take more time off with three allotted weeks than with an indefinite number and a boss who models just two. In the absence of a policy, the amount of vacation people take largely reflects what they see their boss and colleagues taking. Which is why, if you want to remove your vacation policy, start by getting all leaders to take significant amounts of vacation and talk a lot about it.
As Netflix grows there are an increasing number of pockets where Reedâs modeling and Pattyâs initial instructions donât seem to have trickled down. On these Netflix teams, the âno vacation policyâ does feel a bit like a âno vacationâ policy. But many leaders at Netflix are consciously following Reedâs modeling, taking big vacations and making sure everyone is watching. And when they do, employees use the freedom Netflix provides in many surprising and beneficial ways.
Leadership modeling is the first part of getting the unlimited vacation to work properly. The other concern many have about removing the vacation policy is that their teams will use the freedom to take off months on end at inconvenient moments, harming teamwork and sabotaging the business. Thatâs what brings us to the second required step for a successful lifting of vacation policy. Do this well and it will also help you fix the problem of any leaders in your organization, like Kyle, who donât emulate the big vacation-taking their bosses are modeling and in doing so fail to achieve healthy work-life balance on their own teams.
The big guys, Neil and Reed, were set against the idea publicly and privately. At most places this would be end of discussion. But Todd Yellin, VP of product, (who worked for Neil) had doubts. He discussed with Zach Schendel (senior user experience researcher) about running some tests to find out if Neil and Reedâs claims were accurate. Zach remembers it like this:
I thought, âNeil and Reed are against this idea. Is it okay to test it out?â At any of my past employers, that would not have been a good move. But the lore at Netflix is all about lower-level employees accomplishing amazing things in the face of hierarchical opposition. With that in mind I went ahead.