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... I couldn’t resist asking, “Tommy, why do you keep throwing yourself at this climb? You’ve experienced so much success as a climber, but all this climb seems to do is give you failure upon failure. Why would you go back?”

“I go back because the climb is making me better, it’s making me stronger,” he replied. “I’m not failing, I’m growing.” We got into a long conversation about how to think about failure, arriving at the idea that the opposite side of the coin of success isn’t failure but growth.

“What I find with a lot of people,” he continued, “is that they’re so focused on success that they don’t put themselves in situations where they’re likely to grow through the process of failure. But to truly find your ultimate limit, you have to go on a journey of cumulative failure and hopefully come out the other end someday. Even if I never succeed in free climbing the Dawn Wall, it will make me so much stronger, and so much better, that most other climbs will seem easy by comparison.